Every year I keep thinking it's going to get quieter but this is our busiest year yet. Since we started we've done more than 147 rear axle carrier panel repairs and we're fully booked up until the end of September. Which cars are affected?
DN: All of them. They all either need doing or have been done already. JR: There are rumours that SMGs are immune and convertibles don't suffer cracks – but they all do.
There are E46 M3s of all descriptions in my workshop right now. When will it happen and why? JR: There's no given mileage when it starts to happen – no science or pattern. The only thing we can be fairly sure of is the more aggressively you drive your car the more likely an M3 will develop cracks and severe damage.
Www.redish-motorsport.com Launch control and snap first-to-second changes are particularly damaging because it's not rot that’s the problem. The cracks are stress fractures. The reason is the entire rear axle is mounted on just one panel and it's a very thin stamped sheet. It only has spot and MIG welds holding it together and, for some reason, BMW fitted it from underneath the car so it's always at a disadvantage, battling against the weight of all those components, gravity and the immense forces it's subjected to. A fully repaired and detailed M3 underbody (www.redish-motorsport.com) DN: We charge around £1800 (+VAT) for a repair but luckily the cracking problem has coincided with M3 values rising dramatically in the last couple of years.
Buyers are well aware of the problem and will ask to see proof of a repair – if you want to keep the value of the car you have to deal with it. JR: It's a shame that BMW has never properly responded to the issue in the UK (editor’s note: it did fix some cars before they’re tenth birthday) although owners successfully sued, and won, a case against BMW USA over the issue.
I guess us Brits don't like suing people. Hmm, maybe we'll make do with a nice 328i coupe JR: Are you kidding? The ’98-00 325/328i was even worse – there are even fewer spot welds than on an M3. There's only one E46 model that isn't affected, the E46 Compact - we've never had to repair one. It has a completely redesigned rear axle carrier panel to the coupe, saloon and estate – something to do with packaging a spare wheel.
They're tough little things, but, yeah, not very desirable.
Why would you want to re enforce it if BMW pay the full cost and do a pukka job? All M3s are affected up to the model end in 06. This issue will affect most M3s, so don't think you are safe if there are no signs of it yet. Just keep an eye on the diff mount area underneath when you get a chance and get the floor replaced when the cracks get to over 20mm. Devil may cry 5 download fullrip. BMW won't touch it if someone has already fitted re enforcement plates. Under 10 years old and unmodified is the only criteria that BMW go. A quick check in the boot will reveal if you have severe cracking.
Look for distortion of the metalwork in the corner of the boot floor such as in this photo. (Just because its not distorted doesn't mean its definitely not showing early signs of cracking though). Why would you want to re enforce it if BMW pay the full cost and do a pukka job? All M3s are affected up to the model end in 06. This issue will affect most M3s, so don't think you are safe if there are no signs of it yet. Just keep an eye on the diff mount area underneath when you get a chance and get the floor replaced when the cracks get to over 20mm.
Under 10 years old and unmodified is the only criteria that BMW go. A quick check in the boot will reveal if you have severe cracking. Look for distortion of the metalwork in the corner of the boot floor such as in this photo. (Just because its not distorted doesn't mean its definitely not showing early signs of cracking though distortion to boot and diff area are signs it is serious but first cracks show on the n/s rear back subframe mount and o/s rear front subframe mount you are dead right in what you say, mine has tiny cracks on these subframe mount points but nothing near the diff or boot area.
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This car has 60,000 miles Was built April 2002 Is owned by the original same owner that bought it brand new in April 2002 from a SJ BMW, London, UK. This is a rare example, but worth making people aware of how much damage the 'E46 Subframe Crack' problem can do to an E46 M3. This car was recently brought to us for our Redish Motorsport E46 Subframe Repair & Reinforcement Process: Unfortunately we cannot offer this car our 'Repair & Reinforcement' process as the cracks are too developed, too long outside of our reinforcement plates, as well as in multiple locations away from plates with known weak points where opposite forces are at work (spring perch). We all know 'anybody' can physically weld these cracks, but it's knowing how long they'll last for, and in our experience of having to replace entire Rear Axle Carrier Panel's on other people's previously repaired cars, we know more than anyone how this sort of damage is extremely hard to contain for the rest of the car's life (which is how long we'd like to think our repairs will hopefully last). In our opinion, this BMW E46 M3 requires the Rear Axle Carrier Panel to be REPLACED rather than just repaired. An example of our REPLACE process can be seen here: This is the same process which BMW dealers/bodyshop offer, however, ours is more involved and includes additional plug welding and stitch welding, as well as internal reinforcement of the new RACP, as well as Redish Motorsport Reinforcement Plates, and BMW Structural Resin, plus better corrosion-protection and final visual finishes.
If you have a BMW E46 'Subframe' concern, contact us at Redish Motorsport, UK on 89 www.redish-motorsport.com www.facebook.com/redishmotorsport www.youtube.com/redishmotorsport We also sell our Redish Motorsport E46 Subframe Reinforcement Plate Kit V2 which can be seen here.
Hello, it's been about four months since i've owned my e46 m3. It's 2002 model and i love it so far.
I've been googling around and searching around the forum and ran into subframe issues. I did a search on google but nobody is clear about what symptom is like and nobody really posted how much it would cost. I know bmw had a recall on 2009 but fixing it under warranty is expired.
Anyways i would like to know how much it would be to install reinforcement kit and what are the symptoms? Do bmw offer free check ups? How do i check for myself?
Thank you all!
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